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	<title>Comments on: The Feynmanization of Chapter 1</title>
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		<title>By: leec</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 01:53:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Robert.  The blog was recently moved to a new server and the file attachments don't seem to have come along for the ride.  I have relinked to another copy of the chapter stored on another server.  Hope you enjoy it!

-- Chris Lee</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Robert.  The blog was recently moved to a new server and the file attachments don&#8217;t seem to have come along for the ride.  I have relinked to another copy of the chapter stored on another server.  Hope you enjoy it!</p>
<p>&#8211; Chris Lee</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Cadena</title>
		<link>http://thinking.bioinformatics.ucla.edu/2008/08/13/the-feynmanization-of-chapter-1/#comment-866</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Cadena</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 07:00:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The link for the new chapter returns a "404 — File not found."  This is the url the link points to:  http://thinking.bioinformatics.ucla.edu/files/2008/08/chapter1.pdf</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The link for the new chapter returns a &#8220;404 — File not found.&#8221;  This is the url the link points to:  <a href="http://thinking.bioinformatics.ucla.edu/files/2008/08/chapter1.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://thinking.bioinformatics.ucla.edu/files/2008/08/chapter1.pdf</a></p>
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		<title>By: John Baez</title>
		<link>http://thinking.bioinformatics.ucla.edu/2008/08/13/the-feynmanization-of-chapter-1/#comment-161</link>
		<dc:creator>John Baez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 18:28:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello again.  I just took a look at your new draft.  It's vastly more appealing than the old one!

I like the dialogues.  You can have a lot of fun with them if you have the same characters appear repeatedly, with their own distinctive personalities - illustrating different cognitive tendencies, or different aspects of your &lt;i&gt;own&lt;/i&gt; thinking.   Done right this sort of thing is very engaging, since we're hard-wired to be fascinated by real people and their conflicts.

It's a real art to bring a taste of "real life" into such dialogues without distracting attention from the points you're trying to make.   Ideally, the characters' personalities can be very &lt;i&gt;helpful&lt;/i&gt; in presenting different points.  For example, it makes sense to have a mathematician named Matt (cute) who is good at rigorous reasoning but a bit naive when it comes to epistemology: he can help out when math is needed, but also serve to illustrate the dangers of certain kinds of naivete.  You could have a frequentist and a Bayesian to carry out two sides of that battle... after all, I think part of your book is about the limitations of "subjective Bayesianism".  Sonya shouldn't be just "a scientist", but some specific &lt;i&gt;kind&lt;/i&gt; of scientist: you may want a number of different kinds: biologists, computer scientists, physicists and so on --- each with their own strengths and weaknesses.  Since you're a Renaissance man, you could use quite a cast of characters.

You write: "Most of us have learned about mathematical logic, theorems and proofs in math class."  Ah, if only that were true!  :-)  It depends who your audience is, I guess.

Using the Monte Hall paradox to introduce Bayes' law is good, but maybe you should start with an easier example, like: "if the probability that you die of cancer given that you smoke is 20%, and the probability that you smoke is 10%, and... then... ?".  In other words, a simple "plug and chug" example, just to illustrate the formula and nail down the concepts in the simplest possible way.

But, you can probably find a real-world example that seems quite striking!  People tend to get mixed up between "the probability that P, given Q" and "the probability that Q, given P", and get shocked when these are drastically different.  Getting over this seems to be crucial to getting good at statistical reasoning.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello again.  I just took a look at your new draft.  It&#8217;s vastly more appealing than the old one!</p>
<p>I like the dialogues.  You can have a lot of fun with them if you have the same characters appear repeatedly, with their own distinctive personalities - illustrating different cognitive tendencies, or different aspects of your <i>own</i> thinking.   Done right this sort of thing is very engaging, since we&#8217;re hard-wired to be fascinated by real people and their conflicts.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a real art to bring a taste of &#8220;real life&#8221; into such dialogues without distracting attention from the points you&#8217;re trying to make.   Ideally, the characters&#8217; personalities can be very <i>helpful</i> in presenting different points.  For example, it makes sense to have a mathematician named Matt (cute) who is good at rigorous reasoning but a bit naive when it comes to epistemology: he can help out when math is needed, but also serve to illustrate the dangers of certain kinds of naivete.  You could have a frequentist and a Bayesian to carry out two sides of that battle&#8230; after all, I think part of your book is about the limitations of &#8220;subjective Bayesianism&#8221;.  Sonya shouldn&#8217;t be just &#8220;a scientist&#8221;, but some specific <i>kind</i> of scientist: you may want a number of different kinds: biologists, computer scientists, physicists and so on &#8212; each with their own strengths and weaknesses.  Since you&#8217;re a Renaissance man, you could use quite a cast of characters.</p>
<p>You write: &#8220;Most of us have learned about mathematical logic, theorems and proofs in math class.&#8221;  Ah, if only that were true!  <img src='http://thinking.bioinformatics.ucla.edu/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />  It depends who your audience is, I guess.</p>
<p>Using the Monte Hall paradox to introduce Bayes&#8217; law is good, but maybe you should start with an easier example, like: &#8220;if the probability that you die of cancer given that you smoke is 20%, and the probability that you smoke is 10%, and&#8230; then&#8230; ?&#8221;.  In other words, a simple &#8220;plug and chug&#8221; example, just to illustrate the formula and nail down the concepts in the simplest possible way.</p>
<p>But, you can probably find a real-world example that seems quite striking!  People tend to get mixed up between &#8220;the probability that P, given Q&#8221; and &#8220;the probability that Q, given P&#8221;, and get shocked when these are drastically different.  Getting over this seems to be crucial to getting good at statistical reasoning.</p>
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		<title>By: John Baez</title>
		<link>http://thinking.bioinformatics.ucla.edu/2008/08/13/the-feynmanization-of-chapter-1/#comment-157</link>
		<dc:creator>John Baez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 09:39:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi!  I got your email - I'll check out this new draft and make some comments in a while.   I'll have to add this blog to my list of places to visit.

(Lisa and I have been in Paris for most of the summer, but will return to California tomorrow.)

Don't succumb to math envy!  Or if you do, imitate those mathematicians who explain things using words rather than equations.  :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi!  I got your email - I&#8217;ll check out this new draft and make some comments in a while.   I&#8217;ll have to add this blog to my list of places to visit.</p>
<p>(Lisa and I have been in Paris for most of the summer, but will return to California tomorrow.)</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t succumb to math envy!  Or if you do, imitate those mathematicians who explain things using words rather than equations.  <img src='http://thinking.bioinformatics.ucla.edu/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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